Sending you internet hugs, if you want them. Yeah, I read the very beginning, but as soon as they start heading home and Miles starts writing, I skip ahead. Maybe that won’t be infidelity or a crime. Yes, I have called in “sick” when technically I “stayed up too late reading fanfiction and now I’m tiiiired”. Students can also use Dr note or fake doctors excuse note to send with sick leave application as a written proof of sickness. And maybe it seeing the situation through the lawyer filter, but the whole time I was reading the letter, I was thinking, “Oh, no no no.”. This was my first thought too. There’s no protected health information to even disclose! It’s assuming that the request was denied to screw the boyfriend over, not because it was a system restriction or because someone made an error or the manager (who is a human and prone to human mistakes) just plain forgot about their conversation from months earlier and the whole thing could’ve been solved with a 10-second discussion. Maybe I’m incorrectly interpreting it through the lens of my own company’s policy. With a letterhead in the header area of doctor’s note, it includes date and provision for the patient’s name … It wasn’t necessarily going on an aggressive attack towards his employer. He forged a note, he got caught, and the more he fights that, the worse he looks. That would be really, really transparent to the employer. I hope he gets his hours certified and best of luck to both of you! Yeah, I had the same reaction. The best thing he can to is admit full responsibility and stop trying to accuse them of anything. I don’t think the job was aware he was traveling out of the country. Had he come in to the meeting and explained essentially that he thought the verbal ok was enough, when he found out it wasn’t he panicked because he already had non-refundable plane tickets so he made up the note to get the time off, he knows he was wrong, etc etc — would your response change? I’m specifically objecting to this idea that the boyfriend is totally at fault. I know he shouldn’t have done the things he did and he deserved his ImpSec career termination, but if they’d just promoted him to Captain on schedule… Maybe it’s just because I hate when people watch you screw up and then go “oh, but I had a plan for you, too bad!”, Maybe it’s just because I hate when people watch you screw up and then go “oh, but I had a plan for you, too bad!”. The Privacy Rule of HIPAA does not prevent hospitals from confirming that a patient is at the hospital as long as the person calling asks for the patient by name. If it’s one thing that my legal career has taught me (similar to what I suspect a teaching job would teach one) is the large number of people who will lie because it’s what will allow them to feel like they are winning in the moment, even thought it’s super obvious to everyone else that they will definitely be caught. I have some sympathy on the “I told you so” credit issue, actually, though I often find those kinds of things obnoxious. John would then know not to agree to that week when he’s talking to family or pounce on a cheap airfare and figure that he can get the days officially approved later based on the verbal okay. We have choices. I trust my manager completely, and she has gone to bat for me before, but I still make sure I have my PTO requests (and her approval) in writing and on our team calendar before I book travel, even if she verbally approved it, because I know sometimes things come up, and sometimes people forget. Stick with vague excuses for interviews. updates: the coworker who came to work with Covid and more. I do wonder if they let him go to Cuba because they were looking for a way to get rid of him. You can the mouse as a pen and draw your signature. MILES! And then forging a freaking doctor’s note? he’s not an angry perons, but i appreciate the well wishes !!!! (Studies show their heartrate actually goes down when they are allegedly “out of control”.) Basically, he falsified a record and that is a fireable offense everywhere I’ve ever worked. I’ve certainly been approved for a December 20 – January 2nd vacation request when I would receive a new vacation allotment on January 1. No mater when it resets though, it’s a terrible policy. And they’re looking at it from the perspective of what they think is best for the OP, not from the employee. I wouldn’t say it was a lot of unnecessary trouble. However, since many cannot get a real doctors note, a fake doctor’s note would suffice. We do hope that you will like these doctors note templates. It’s especially ridiculous because that’s a time of year where a lot of people typically want to take vacation time. Doctors note for work absence is a commonly used document to get vacation from company or employer in case of illness. I might expect a “Yes, but you have to take the days off as unpaid” though. For example, I have a coworker who believes that if he calls in sick, the company can ask what’s wrong, require a doctor’s note, and make him see the company doctor, but if he says his wife and/or kids are sick, the company cannot legally ask any questions (the implication being that if you want a day off, no questions ask, just say your spouse or kids are sick). But honestly, you could start with Memory and Komar, and then go backwards too. I think it comes from one’s feeling of not being in power. But to me the response to the holiday request falling through wasn’t reasonable so the OPs boyfriend is more at fault. If I say I will cover a shift, I am expected to cover it. So, though not directly related to the letter. Right? Natalie, that’s a really good point about Simon and Gregor. Depending on your physician and the nature of your consultation, it can be subject to modifications. Not confusion, or “I’m sure we can fix this, let me talk to a human.”, Found out and given a chance to grovel? Not completely illogical, if the OPs boyfriend couldn’t be sure they would get the aproval after talking to their manager then I can see why they might think that forging the note would be more likely to work before having the conversation rather than after. I am not saying this DID happen, but it’s a scenario where apparently your manager is not going to bat for you, despite prior verbal agreement. It was for business unrelated to his job. Using a Fake Doctors Note. “What is THAT? Sorry! You can’t trust someone after a stunt like that. If he did communicate with his manager after the PTO was denied, then there’s the argument to be made that the company was a little more in the wrong here. This guy would have probably forged an obituary. The good news is that there are actual doctors excuse templates available for download on the Internet free. By not facing up to that, he’s coming across so much more terribly than he otherwise would. I agree with Apollo, but think you should take care in picking your excuse so you don’t get caught in a lie. He owns land there and the dates were coordinated between a number of different contractors, his lawyer, and a business manager. I forgot to put that in my comment. Of course, the better option would have been to tell the truth in the first place. For example, are you a patient, what is your condition and room number are all progressive options. I could book a 3-week vacation for six months from now even though I only have 2 weeks currently accrued, because our system would see that I’ll have 3 weeks+ by the time the request occurs. The company has recently (within the last two weeks) been sold to another owner, and the previous owners were so tight on money, and cut the staff down to 3 managers all together and 8 employees total, that he has been the buildings maintenance, plumber, painter, and is the ONLY reason the place is still running. What’s going to happen the next time a decision doesn’t go their way or there’s miscommunication that puts them in a bind? We have collected 46 popular signature fonts. Use Signature Clear × Your Doctors Note Editor is Ready! Bringing up the prior approval is such a trivial thing that I would be absolutely shocked if it was never mentioned. Doctor notes are essential documents without which the medical industry may falter severely. It’s possible the boss didn’t even know, though; it sounds not like permission was rescinded but that the form got auto-rejected. 7. I’d probably take a few minutes to cool down and possibly text a friend to vent/worry a little before approaching my boss, and I certainly wouldn’t concoct an elaborate lie involving a medical procedure, but I think that it’s quite normal to respond to setbacks with anger rather than levelheaded confusion/confidence. Why are you so convinced that this had to have happened, despite the absence of any evidence? However, if a student was only going to be gone for a day or two, I wouldn’t require anything. My boyfriend decided to tell his job that he was having a medical procedure done and that it was medically necessary for him to have those days off. I know of people who’ve been denied unemployment for far less, and this is a state that’s known for being friendlier to claimants than employers. He’s 100% in the wrong and he accepted the risks of negative work consequences at every progressively worse decision point here. I see where Mike is coming from, the OPs boyfriend wouldn’t have felt the need to forge the note and lie if the request had been handled better or the verbal approval homered. Yes, I agree. 97% of threads around here presume facts not in evidence, Mike. – how is the BF in other areas of his life? Depends on who designed and implemented the system, you’d be surprised how many half finished programs are out there that cause these exact type of problems. I know you don’t support what he did, and I don’t know you so I’m not in any place to comment on your relationship, but I would caution against characterizing your boyfriend’s actions as something that “anyone might have done.”. I have had many calls from people asking if “so and so” is a patient most of the time I don’t tell them. It’s too late now, but couldn’t he have gone to an actual doctor to get cleared to return to work? @ zillah While these decisions were bad, I believe that the employer had more agency to stop this from happening in the first place, and should take a hard look at how they treat their employees. At my company you don’t even ask your manager on the official side – first it goes through the PTO system/personnel, THEN it goes to your manager for approval (and usually you’ve talked it over before you sent it in, so if the PTO side’s OK, you will get a yes). OP seems to be very level-headed, I think she would have included it if he did go back to the boss after the denial. Well, he got himself fired. The OP’s boyfriend may have made a poor choice, but it was one he should never have had to make in the first place! I’m saying that in addition to him being very in the wrong, it’s also stupid and short sighted of the business to have an effective blackout for no reason other than technical incompetence or other pointy-haired reasons. It’s no more bizarre than making up a medical crisis, forging a note, and calling a lawyer when you get caught. Never use a form with a pre-applied signature, and never add the signature via Photoshop or a similar tool. I think the boyfriend could have a problem here, if the records he kept need to be verified, how do you trust someone who hass been known to forge records and documents? It didn’t matter what he said, owning up to something would just result in the same explosion; lying about it could mean escape. He got confirmation that it would be fine, but nothing was in writing. Does he need to go to jail for this? I suspect that there are large chunks of this story we’re not being told. I also sense a strong sense of entitlement from the boyfriend. However, it seems to me that everyone fails to take into consideration that he had been verbally promised time off that he had a right to, banked on, and was devastated and disheartened at the fact he was losing it. Now there is no job. This happened on my day off, so I came in to several furious emails demanding an investigation. Exactly my point! The company survived, barely. If he said “Hey, boss, I got a rubberstamp no on that vacation you approved for me” and the boss said “Sucks to be you,” then yeah, he got screwed. Plus it sounds like he’s contacting a lawyer, in part, because they’re refusing to allow the time he actually worked there to go towards his certification. PTO denial wasn’t automatic. That note cost me $113 plus I lost two day’s pay. That’s how I read it — she wanted to make it clear she wasn’t endorsing this. To his mind, the professor had broken an agreement. Believe me when I say that being raised by alcoholics, even really high-functioning ones like my parents, screws up the mind/emotions/coping abilities in many ways, sometimes unexpected ones. If forgery is his go-to option for getting out of a difficulty, can you trust him not to forge customer signatures, client instructions, company credit signatures or other critical documents if he might get in trouble or be in other financial tight spots? It is a shame that employers these days intimidate and make their employees fear job loss by tactics of intimidation such as to act towards the employee that they are not a person, but just someone who can be bullied and expendable. Is this a major integrity thing I’m failing? I have that quality too, which is why I think this is exactly what happened. It’s true they did a sucky thing but for him to use that as an excuse for the bad-ness of his thing (the forgery) is like saying “yeah, it’s true I keyed your car and trashed your house, but you called me a rude name first so it’s your fault!”. My bacterial ear infection spread into my throat and my eye before I got the medication to kill it all, and then I needed to take a stronger antibiotic. Um, yeah, no! Using a Fake Doctors Note. I just…wow. Which charge be comforting, accustomed they’re alone a few months removed from critics apprehensive if drillmaster Jon Cooper should be accursed and whether their first-round ambit at the easily of the Columbus Blue Jackets … No. Quack quack. His anger was justifiable, but his behaviour was not. Is this a younger guy with maturity issues, or an older guy with integrity issues? And I know that you could argue that is none of their business, but if he needed the time for a medical procedure than why not immediately go talk to the manager? Oh, very good point. I hope everything works out for the best in the long run. For international travel I have one word: Medical. I know someone who gets this kind of angry over things that, to most people I know, would only evoke a feeling of slight irritation. A doctor’s note proves to be highly resources in such situations. I mean, I don’t want to minimize the guy’s frustration over potentially losing his money and vacation, because I get that that sucks. However, it should go without being said that the reaction to that isn’t forging doctor’s notes! Even if it’s automated, it can calculate how much time you’ll have by the time the vacation is taken. So either they weren’t quick on the uptake, or they were and let him go on vacation so they could get their ducks in a row. Enjoy my lawyer.”). I told him to just cut his losses and give up on going back to work there. To me this is kind of like forging a prescription because the pharmacy said it’s too soon for a refill, before you even check to see if they could advance you any meds, when a refill could be filed, and whether your doctor could call something else in. My stores GM (I am just an assistant) works really hard for the restaurant, and has for nearly 3 years. Fair enough! It’s also why you buy travel insurance (though I’m not sure what it would cover in this situation). That’s kind of an important point here. With A Civil Campaign in a close race. HIPAA is a US thing, correct? Because that’s their job as a manager. Privacy Policy and Affiliate Disclosures, I think our employee lied about having cancer. But, you can request the time off as unpaid and have the leave applied once it hits your account. The verbal warning was due to the fact that too many of his case notes were incomplete. 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